Iron Man Appeals on a Primal Level
I just watched my brand new (okay, okay, totally eBayed) 2-disc Ultimate Edition Iron Man blu-ray. I still think this movie kicks ass, although now I’m starting to form a theory as to why it appeals to me so much. Sure, it’s got lots of comedy and fantastic special effects, but there’s something to the Iron Man idea that sets him apart from other superheroes.
Take, for example, Superman. Superman certainly appeals on a primal level. Ever have dreams you can fly? I’m sure you have, and I’m sure you would agree they’re utterly euphoric. Who wouldn’t want to be Superman? Who can’t help but cheer watching him blast off into the sky, or lift helicopters or whatever with his bare hands? Of course, the Superman personae is more nuanced than that. Superman is perfect through and through. As Superman, you’d go around not only flying but also representing, you know, truth, justice, and the “way” of the World’s Greatest Country, the United States of America. You’d laugh as bullets bounced off your chest, and then politely escort the criminals off to jail for their fair trials (since that’s clearly what America is all about). There’s something primal about being Superman, but it’s sort of a package deal, of both powers and morals. That’s would it would mean to be Superman.
Batman, or Spiderman, perhaps? I group them together as the “rooftop” heroes. Who wouldn’t want to leap from rooftops, swinging through the night with grappling hooks or strands of silk? Of course, their personalities are like night and day. Batman is the world’s greatest detective, somewhat grim and removed from society, despite the excesses of his high society alter-ego. Spiderman is the wise-crackingest of superheroes, prone to hanging upside down and mouthing off to villains as much as landing a punch. Each is fun in their own way, but as with Superman, there’s a certain sort of perfection, of unattainability, to them. Batman is the perfect person, mind, body, and soul, while Spiderman relies on a happy accident for his superhuman powers.
Which brings us to Iron Man. While all the above superheroes appeal in a primal way, I feel like Iron Man appeals to those who love superhero movies in the most primal way of all. That’s because Iron Man is really nothing more than a dork in a suit. Okay, okay, I know Tony Stark can smelt iron or whatever, but unlike Batman, his physical strength is not a key asset. Tony Stark is at heart an engineer, who has this wild idea to make an indestructible suit capable of flight and can fire blasts of energy from palm thingies. His ultimate power derives from his intellect, which directly translates to his suit and his vigilante alter-ego.
This distinction makes the idea of Iron Man more accessible and – dare I say it – realistic. In Batman Begins, we sort of get an idea of why Bruce Wayne decides to become the Batman, but ultimately the film cannot explain what is a fiction of the purest form. How can you possibly justify a multibillionare, even one who has experienced deep tragedy, deciding to dress up like a bat and fight crime? The idea is ludicrous, even if it is part of the character’s primal appeal. But watching Robert Downey Jr. go through the origin of Iron Man convinced me of the character and his decisions. Tony Stark is a genius, but he is a much farther cry from perfection than Bruce Wayne. He gives the audience that much more to hang on to, an aspect I think is absolutely critical in making Iron Man such an effective superhero movie.
And, yeah, maybe as I watch him land with a thud in the middle of a war zone, repulsor rays at the ready and raising a visage designed to do business – maybe I’m thinking a little bit more than usual how kick-ass that would really be.
October 17, 2008 at 10:50 am
Reading all these super hero movie reviews make me want to go out and actually read the comic books they are based on. Have you read any of the latest ones and have any to recommend? I don’t think I’ve read any comics since the death of Superman way back in middle school.
October 17, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Great question. I’ve only read a handful of comic books, all of them trade paperbacks or self-contained stories. I would actually love it if there was a good Iron Man story out there, or just any other quality comics to read. I’ve never read Death of Superman, but I probably should. The Dark Phoenix saga is another one I’ve had on the back burner.
I can pretty safely recommend the following:
- Watchmen (required reading)
- Dragonball/Dragonball Z mangas (I think you’ve read those)
- Maus (quality holocaust story, if that’s your thing)
- Kingdom Come (probably my second fav. comic book)
- Akira (a little uneven, but the scope is impressive)
- The Dark Knight Returns (the art is weak, but I love Frank Miller’s style)
October 18, 2008 at 12:50 pm
I’ve honestly never been a big Iron Man fan. However I do know that 2 of his biggest storylines were the Demon in the Bottle and the Armour Wars are very well regarded. Granted they were made in the 70′s and 80′s, so they may seem a bit dated, but if you can over look that they should be decent reads. I’m sure there’s more, but they don;t come to mind. I can look around the net time I’m at the comic book store.
I myself was never much of a Dark Knight Returns fan. I actually think the weak art was a factor, but appreciated the concepts it tossed out. As for the Death of Superman, the whole death, funeral, and return is very uneven. There are some very good moments, but there are some very odd moments that come out of nowhere and ruin the whole pacing. I have 2 of the 3 trades in that sequence and often find myself skipping some sections.
Some of the best traditional superhero trades are anything by Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale. They worked for both Marvel and DC and set their stories in the beginning of the heros career but maintain a timeless quality. Marvels is also good. Painted by Alex Ross it’s the story of a photojournalist and gives an image of what is is like trying to live a normal life in the Marvel Universe. Lily and Eddie raved about Plent Hulk, and I will admit I do want to read it.
In non-traditional means, Im a big fan of Planetary. It’s about a team of superhero archaelogists trying to uncover a conspiracy involving a group who is trying to rule the world and hide some history of the world. If you’re big in tackles a lot of sci-fi/comic book themes in a cool way. I also love Bone. It’s best described as Disney meets Lord of the Rings. Another one I love is Superman:Secret Identity. In this one a teen in the “real world” is constantly teased about his name being Clark Kent, and one day wakes up to find that he has Superman’s powers. Finally, I just love the new Conan trades by Dark horse.
Needless to say I can make a lot more suggestions for those interested in any type of genres, but these are the ones I normally recommend to eveyrone.
October 18, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Sorry that should read Planet Hulk
October 18, 2008 at 7:30 pm
I am a huge comic fan from way back, as you know Jay, and I have pretty much never read an Iron Man book. Still haven’t. It’s a great concept from the Silver Age, but one that never motivated me to head to Omni to pick it up. Like most of the early Marvel books, it’s had highs and lows all through the 70s through the 00s, from what I understand.
As for Dark Knight, I’m more of a fan of it than you guys, for its historical place within the context of Batman’s history. Say what you want about his artwork, that’s a matter of personal taste, but Miller’s writing on DKR made Batman politically and socially relevant, especially within the mid 1980′s, when it was written.
As for my other picks, I DARE anyone to talk shit about Watchmen. I prefer Marvels over the heavy-handed-at-times Kingdom Come, although seeing Ross paint the entire DCU is awesome. All the Loeb/Sale Batman stories kick ass, none more so than The Long Halloween. When it comes to Miller, pretty much all his Sin City books are great, especially the first three – The Hard Goodbye, A Dame to Kill For, and The Big Fat Kill, and Miller’s run on Daredevil, as well as his follow-up retcon of the origin, The Man Without Fear, has basically not been equalled. I also recommend The Authority, a politically motivated superhero team for the cynical bastard reader, and finally The Ultimates, a revisionism of Marvel’s Avengers, complete with a great take on, yes, Iron Man, bringing us full circle.
October 18, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I will admit that Miller’s Man Without Fear origin retcon was awesome. In fact it is my favorite work by Romita Jr. However I must disagree with you regarding Miller’s work on the original being unequaled. I have to say Bendis and Maleev had some of the best work I’ve read. I think it is on par with what Miller did with the character. Ialso agree with you about the Ultimates. I finally read the entire thing last weekend, and I must admit I’m sad Mark Miller is no longer on that book. Had I more time earlier today, I probably would’ve written about it as well.
As for Dark Knight, I may be reaching blasphemy, but i think it’s place in history is just a tad overrated. In my opinion the Dennis O’Neil and Neal Adams were better Batman tales. Dark without going over the top. That said, I think DKR is a very good read, but it wouldn’t make my top 5. When it comes to Miller on Batman, I prefer Year 1 especially after Loeb and Sale did a great psuedo-sequal with Long Halloween.
October 18, 2008 at 8:43 pm
I’m fully in agreement on Ultimates 1 & 2 – great stuff, and yes, Romita Jr’s work on Man Without Fear is among his best stuff ever. While Dark Knight is probably more popular and influential, given the epic way Miller handles Batman, it’s hard to disagree with someone preferring Year One, as it’s also so well done, and more reality-based. I can see the argument for it being overrated, even if I do not agree. And yes, the way Long Halloween connected to it worked great. At least it’s no All Star Batman, which reads either as Miller losing his damn mind, or creating a subversive work of extremely broad self-parody. Similar to some critics’ reactions to DK2 – which I hated. At least it has Jim Lee’s amazing artwork classed up the crap-filled dialog and story on All Star. I haven’t read Bendis’ run on DD, but I have heard nothing but good things.
October 19, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Yeah, I’ve read Year One and Long Halloween. They’re both solid, but I prefer the more epic scope of Dark Knight. You get the battle with Superman, the confrontation with the Joker…and my personal favorite, book 2, which pits Batman against a mere crime boss but has a tight, dramatic plot.
I’m surprised The Killing Joke hasn’t come up yet. If Will were on this thread, he’d have mentioned it. It’s short, but I rank it around Year One and Long Halloween. Like most of Moore’s stuff, it’s well-written. Speaking of whom, I would slot the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vols. 1 and 2 as #7 on my list; it’s dark stuff, but has a creative premise and good art. I haven’t read From Hell yet, but I hear it’s vintage Moore as well. This discussion has inspired me to put it in my Amazon cart.
Did these posts give you any ideas, Angel?
October 19, 2008 at 10:16 pm
The Killing Joke is also high on my list as well, easily THE best Joker story ever. Additionally, I prefer DKR for it’s epic scope as I wrote earlier, but Year One is a solid book as well. I think it’s funny, Jay, how only now, both you and Will are seemingly so into comics, while my interest in them has somewhat waned by comparison. I do still love comics, particularly superhero books, but just don’t read them as much as I used to.
I would also like to recommend pretty much any tpb of Powers if you like superhero stuff with a darker edge. It neatly combines the capes and cowls with a police procedural storyline, and although the art may seem cartoony, it’s definitely not a kids book. Astro City is also a good choice for an alternative take on superheroics.
October 20, 2008 at 9:16 am
Sweet, I didn’t think my comment would spark so much interest. I’ll definitely have to check out some of the ones you guys mentioned. Watchmen is on the top of the list, especially with the movie coming out soon.
I have read and watched the entire DBZ series, but I haven’t gotten around to reading DB yet. I remember reading that DB is more comical and less action packed so I’ve been putting it off.
Another series I remember reading is Maximum Carnage. Of course I was a huge Spider Man fan and the fond memories I remember might just be based on nostalgia, but I thoroughly enjoyed it back in the day.
October 20, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Kyle – I won’t speak for Will, but I’m not *really* into comics. I’ve pretty much listed in this thread every major comic I’ve read over the years, though as I said there’s a few I’m gonna pick up now. I know Will just recently bought a slew of Batman stories, including Long Halloween, Year One, and some other stuff like Gotham By Gaslight. So I guess you’ve caught us at a local maximum, to use a math term.
Re: Dragonball. Dragonball definitely starts off very different than DBZ, it’s got lots of “OMG steal the girl’s panties!!!!11one”-type humor. However the tone does mature, and I think it’s totally worth reading for the Budokai matchups alone. The final fight between Goku and Piccolo could be the most epic fight in the entire Dragonball universe.
Is Maximum Carnage about Carnage’s origin? That might be worth checking out….
October 20, 2008 at 9:22 pm
It’s funny y’all should mention Maximum Carnage. I was just talking about that with one of the comic book store guys. IT was fun back in the dya, but if you’re use to reading all the trades mentioned here, you’ll find it really lacking. Much like the whole death and return os Superman trades, it was a good idea that was poorly executed, although more so. Last year I thumbed through the books I got when that was first released; and honestly the books were better served for it’s nostalgic pruposes than for the actual plot.
October 20, 2008 at 9:24 pm
If I remember correctly, Maximum Carnage takes place a little while after his origin. It’s still a good read though. It also had several Marvel heroes appear in the series: Captain America, Cloak and Dagger, and Venom to name a few.
October 26, 2008 at 11:45 am
I just reread the DKR for the first time in over a decade, and it holds up better than I remember, but I must say I still prefer year 1. I also think that DKR 2 was a POS. Of course I’m a big Dick Grayson fan, so the whole ending pissed me off.
November 10, 2008 at 6:20 pm
I think DKR is outrageously overrated. While Frank Miller’s much darker vision of the Caped Crusader ultimately paved the way for how we know and love the character today, the plot and story of DKR are simply ludicrous, and the specific portrayal of Batman is way over the top.